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Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I found this foil package on sale for $621.
I was thinking of using it on my Exocet 140l board.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I learned to foil on the 76. Pretty good allrounder. Know people that have ridden them for years and jibe jibe jibe all day on them.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Short answer: yes.
Slightly longer answer: you may be able to find it cheaper used but not much. You'll need to learn some nuances about the bolts which can be finicky but at your weight not a big deal. Also, by default they use M10 bolts instead of standard M6 to attach to board. You can either drill them out a touch or find the M6-M10 adapters.
Almost short answer: for your weight a good size wing. If you want to spend more there are other options but this foil can easily keep you happy for several years.
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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I started foiling with the slingshot system and still use it. Sounds like good deal (comes with tuttle adapter and base plate,) and you can add additional wings and masts, such as I84, I99, and Time Code 68, and 28" and 24" masts for shallow water. It can be used for Winging also, (I84 and I99.)

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?
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You'll need to learn some nuances about the bolts which can be finicky but at your weight not a big deal. Also, by default they use M10 bolts instead of standard M6 to attach to board. You can either drill them out a touch or find the M6-M10 adapters. Almost short answer: for your weight a good size wing. If you want to spend more there are other options but this foil can easily keep you happy for several years. Welcome to the dark side.

Drill them out Shok
Will I be able to use this board with a regular fin?
Is it going to damage the board?

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Is anyone thinking of selling foil and foil board?

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

The drilling out is not a big deal, but you can use thread adapters instead. I got the ones shown below made specifically for this purpose from North Beach for 6.99 plus shipping which I think was about the same amount. For a person of your size, I think these would work fine. Might use Loctite so they can't come out (ever.)

https://www.nbwindsurfing.com/shop/Foils/Slingshot-Foils/Slingshot-Foil-Components/p/Slingshot-M10-to-M6-thread-adapter-set-x31304104.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjw5remBhBiEiwAxL2M93rwYDaYFvn0zFsoCIEvxYeiEqVQxWSnC2QFLT4um_FfMJQmoJ7UfhoCXlIQAvD_BwE

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

HOW TO DRILL OUT YOUR SLINGHSOT WINDFOIL TUTTLE BOX

https://youtu.be/TSnXbwtfEys

My JP foil board has been drilled out (not by me.).

Also, are regular fin boxes strong enough to run foils?

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Regular fin boxes probably aren't strong enough for foils.

Also: I drilled out my Blast (foil ready foil box) for the i76. I did use the adapter at first (a bit incorrectly), and it required special ordering longer 6mm screws, and then larger 10mm ones when I drilled it out. From McMaster-Carr. SS316 I think (might have been 304 but 316 will be better).

The adapters work, but you'll want to be careful with installing them into the tuttle head as I stripped them once. It was my fault for not using enough tefgel. The install is a bit finnicky due to the small flathead screwdriver openings on them, and those can easily strip either the adapter or the larger threads inside of them as well if your screwdriver is the wrong size. If you want to eventually use the same tuttle adapter without the 10mm to 6mm you'll definitely want tefgel in there as I think the adapter is Ti and the tuttle head is Al, and they will corrode shut.

Drilling it out made the install a lot easier. I think the stock holes in the Blast also weren't well-aligned for the foil anyway, so some drilling was necessary regardless.

I got the adapter install better when I did it on another board, but eventually just moved to a jack plate. I'd really prefer trackmount now for a freeride foil but I'm stuck with what I have for now.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Ed, before all this weird you out...
You have two significant advantages in using this set up even though you have a pre-foil board. First, you are light. You aren't going to put anywhere as much stress on the board as someone close to or over 200. Second, the slingshot head has a supporting plate which reduces the vertical force of the foil on the box, especially at the more stressed front end.
Langdon might be a good resource with fitting everything given his professional background. My JP I recently bought was drilled out and it takes regular m6 without a problem.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Thanks for your input.
It is definitely a helpful information.
It looks like if I want to switch to foiling I will need a board too.
Is it a good idea to buy a used board?
Or it’s better to use my board for learning and then get the right board,

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?
moredownhaul wrote:

You’re a good sailor and foiling is fairly easy so my prediction is you will end up with dedicated gear eventually.

What’s the old saying

Buy once, cry once.

This may be true, but only if you if you know, without much experience, exactly what board ,you want and/or need, Particularly if you have go with something new or relatively expensive.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Thank you all for your feedback.
I will be thinking more about what I want from foiling.
I like speed and 76 is not a good option.
I’m looking at the freeride foils medium aspect maybe 1100 or so.
New equipment is definitely not cheap, so I need more research before committing.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I was hypnotized by the first windfoilers out there. I had to do it and messaged Gebi to ask what to get. He insisted F4 was it. Antoine Albeau was riding them so sure, that made perfect sense. I got their first generation foil I think, with a small, high-ish aspect wing and a very short fuselage. I found a deal on a 105 liter iSonic with a Tuttle box and had quite a difficult time of learning to foil. But still, I was totally hooked. Next I found a beat up Mistral formula board and that made things much easier but I still crashed a lot and broke the nose of that board multiple times before pawning it off selling it to Hamdi at a great price. A used Exocet TurboFormula was next because I’m cheap and it worked pretty well, or so I thought. I broke the nose on it a few times and put bandaids on it. Eventually the tail broke despite having put reinforcing carbon patches on. I also switched to a Moses foil with a 95 cm mast and a “fast” 720 wing because Rhett said it would be right for a guy like me… whatever that means. Later I got their 950 wing and that put foiling jibes into the realm of possibility. The replacement board is a 150 liter Starboard Foil Freeride. The difference is profound and I’m sure that had I bought something like it in the beginning, it would have saved literally years of struggle and frustration.

So my take: get a board like that and any modern foil with a long mast and a big honkin’ low aspect wing. Good

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I can understand the frustration. It probably explains Hamdis desire to quit. But equipment progressed a lot in recent years. Now we have intermediate options like Starboard freeride, 1100 wing and 500 stab. They claim it would be a great beginner option because of the big stub. And more importantly, the is a path for upgrade.

I was thinking about Starboard freeride board also.
I’m not sure about the size though. I’m a small guy, they have 125 and 150 liters. What do you think about 125?

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

Moses also has a 1100 that a few of us use, it’s a good stable wing. I’m 190lbs and use a 135L with no problem
125 is probably a good size for you.

As far as going fast, going 20 on a foil is as thrilling as going 30 on a fin, you can always buy race wings later.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?
moredownhaul wrote:

Moses also has a 1100 that a few of us use, it’s a good stable wing. I’m 190lbs and use a 135L with no problem 125 is probably a good size for you.

As far as going fast, going 20 on a foil is as thrilling as going 30 on a fin, you can always buy race wings later.

The SAB 1100 and Starboard are 2 completely different animals. SAB is measuring wingspan in cm while Starboard is measuring area. The SAB 799 is a closer equivalent to both the Starboard and my AFS F800/1080.

Ed is also lighter than some. The 1100 is going to be close to the same lift as the 950 that a lot of bigger riders use. It's more docile than the IQFoil 900 which with the longer fuse is more steady longitudinally than the Slingshot, imho. My Starboard 1000 is even easier to ride than the 900 and even old buzzards have pushed it past 23.

I agree that for his weight, 135 is plenty. My first board was 130. I wouldn't do much less though since his target is lightwind foiling at first.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?
webguy wrote:

The SAB 1100 and Starboard are 2 completely different animals. SAB is measuring wingspan in cm while Starboard is measuring area.

I did not know that. So much for industry standards.

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?

I agree with FoilDoDo, Chris V.
" The replacement board is a 150 liter Starboard Foil Freeride. The difference is profound and I’m sure that had I bought something like it in the beginning, it would have saved literally years of struggle and frustration.
So my take: get a board like that and any modern foil with a long mast and a big honkin’ low aspect wing."

moreDownhaul , Alan noted, "So much for industry standards." We should have some webpage standards:
When noting foils used, use span/area, so my foils are 99/2371, 84/2066, 76/1534, and 68/1101.
When posting sailing sessions, note sail sizes used, (8.0 sails on foils can run in 10 to 12 mph winds) so sailors not there don't think they missed some real wind.
And unless you're in the witness protection program or your boss moniters our wegpage, sign your post with your real name.

And ediksail Ed asked "Is anyone thinking of selling foil and foil board?"

I am thinking, about, maybe, selling the following.....
Windfoil board - JP Hydro Foil PRO edition, 135 liter (drilled out, I use slingshot foils) with JP board bag.
and if someone is looking for a good board to get into Winging,
Wingfoil Board - Naish Hover wing/sup 125 liter, Ultra Carbon.

The maybe depends on how well my ShredSled windfoil/wingfoil board works outs. I have rode it windfoiling on 6.7 sail but really needed more wind, and it seems to work for Winging but I have a my new 7.5 Wing which hopefully will work on it.

Gene

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Re: Hover glide 76 V3. Is it a good foil?
gene_mathis wrote:

I agree with FoilDoDo, Chris V. " The replacement board is a 150 liter Starboard Foil Freeride. The difference is profound and I’m sure that had I bought something like it in the beginning, it would have saved literally years of struggle and frustration. So my take: get a board like that and any modern foil with a long mast and a big honkin’ low aspect wing."

moreDownhaul , Alan noted, "So much for industry standards." We should have some webpage standards: When noting foils used, use span/area, so my foils are 99/2371, 84/2066, 76/1534, and 68/1101. When posting sailing sessions, note sail sizes used, (8.0 sails on foils can run in 10 to 12 mph winds) so sailors not there don't think they missed some real wind. And unless you're in the witness protection program or your boss moniters our wegpage, sign your post with your real name.

And ediksail Ed asked "Is anyone thinking of selling foil and foil board?"

I am thinking, about, maybe, selling the following..... Windfoil board - JP Hydro Foil PRO edition, 135 liter (drilled out, I use slingshot foils) with JP board bag. and if someone is looking for a good board to get into Winging, Wingfoil Board - Naish Hover wing/sup 125 liter, Ultra Carbon.

The maybe depends on how well my ShredSled windfoil/wingfoil board works outs. I have rode it windfoiling on 6.7 sail but really needed more wind, and it seems to work for Winging but I have a my new 7.5 Wing which hopefully will work on it.

Gene

I agree one number doesn't work anymore.
The same applies to boards.
135L is not enough we also need the board's dimensions.
JP Hydro Foil 135 liter is 215cm long x 86cm wide
Starboard Freeride 150 liter is 208cm long x 85cm wide
So 150L is smaller than 135L Unknw

JP Hydro Foil 135 has good reviews.
What year is the board?

Ed

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