Dave Ezzy on mast carbon content, diameter

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Dave Ezzy on mast carbon content, diameter

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There was a recent post asking about removing wrinkles in a rigged sail. The usual responses ensued: correct mast stiffness and bend curve, more or less downhaul, more or less outhaul, more or less batten tension, and faulty sail construction. One post hinted that the 100% carbon mast was too stiff, and a lower carbon content would be softer. Several folks stated that the stiffness and bend curve are independent of the carbon content. After more discussion, I decided to seek the opinion of someone I trust, someone that makes/sells both masts and sails. I wrote to Dave Ezzy for his advice. I am paraphrasing his response to my questions. If the stiffness and bend curve are the same, the sail would be rigged the same. It would not look any different. Weight, durability and dynamic response (return to “normal” after deflecting) would be different, but the sail should rig the same. One caveat, he prefers lower carbon content for “small” sails, 4.2 and smaller, as the high content mast feels more “twitchy.” Nothing less than 60% for him. He added that SDMs perform better than RDMs above 460 length, but would be more fragile due to the thinner wall thickness. Given this, I tweaked a little file I give to folks I’ve taught who ask what to buy. Here is the mast suggestion section. I think it adjusts for performance notes above and makes some allowance for cost: · 490cm and up – 80% or higher – 100 % SDM preferred for weight · 460cm – 75% some preference for RDM for durability · 430cm and smaller – 50-60% is fine RDM for durability
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Re: Dave Ezzy on mast carbon content, diameter

Maybe I won't upgrade my 60% 430 then...hah! Or is it even lower %...

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Maybe I won't upgrade my 60% 430 then...hah! Or is it even lower %...

Yeah, Dave saved me a few with that, too. I have a couple of 60s. But, dang, hold a 100% 400 in your hands and even an 80 feels like gas pipe. I know it's mental but still...

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Re: Dave Ezzy on mast carbon content, diameter

Yes my smallest mast (370) is a severne red and it feels amazingly light when I rig it with the 4.4 freek. Even the blue mast (400) is noticeably heavier.

I sometimes wish I had the ARC (75% w/ 2 year warranty) SDM in 530 length for the 9.0, but then again, that would probably feel pretty heavy. May just get a slake MDM if it breaks, but I think it's complicated by needing an rdm extension that can handle the downhaul.

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Re: Dave Ezzy on mast carbon content, diameter

AC, Andrea Cucchi, of Point 7 adding some information: https://point-7.com/2024/01/24/k80-vs-k100/

Short version: for their masts, 80 vs 100, both have 3 layers of carbon. The 80 has an extra layer of glass for durability. Otherwise, bend curve is the same. The difference in weight is worth 3m for a PWA racer over the entire race course. If you are racing to put dinner on the table, get the 100. Otherwise, you and most pros would struggle to see the difference: "Even professional riders on the World Tour can struggle to determine the difference between the two masts if they don’t know which mast is inserted in their sail."

Like a lot of things in windsurfing - what you feel in the parking lot doesn't always make a meaningful difference on the water.

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