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Phil (Horue) pushing it

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The crossover begins - wind/wing. Interesting to see what conditions favor each both here and elsewhere.

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Trying out wingsurfing but miss that ridiculous 12.5m2 formula sail you loved to uphaul? Lol

Ladies and gentlemen, the Gong 9m2 Superpower https://www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-wing-superpower/

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Now kitesurfer don't have to give up their strings:

I've been thinking of trying it, so now I guess I will have to.

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How long does it take to take off/put on all the lines? Doesn't that kind of hinder the whole "simplicity" concept?

OTOH, a quiver of 6 and 4 would cover someone on an OBX trip from 12-30. That's interesting.

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You are right - it is going in the wrong direction (complexity vs. simplicity, though the same could be said of foils v. fins for that matter.) I wonder why they need so many bridles and if they need them when using it as a wing, If so, do the bridles get in the way when winging it. I'd like to see an actual video of them using it as a wing rather than as a kite. If it did take 5-10 minutes to set up the lines that would be ok if it saves a day where a 6 is too small. However, they need to prove it can do a water relaunch which is another one of the reasons people like wings. The Vantage web page does not show this product so it is probably still under development. TBH - this is a brand I've never heard of (though that has never stopped me before.)

I'd also like to know why they need (what appears to be) a boom when flying it. Seems like a lot of weight to carry up in light wind.

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The "boom", I think" is actually a hand loop that looks like that because of a trick of perspective. It's definitely a hybrid and it'll be interesting where things end up - at either end or somewhere in the middle?

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(I think that's a kite board..) Secret

Point taken. Maybe someplace like OBX where you can "beach start" in shallow water, a windsurf board might be fun.

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I was thinking there should be no reason this wouldn't work - after all the guy who invented kitewings (McGruder?) used it on windsurf boards.

Taking a closer look, he says it is a 6 ft board, so not an old WS, but I still don't see why it wouldn't work. I'm thinking one of the old giant slalom boards might work - like we used to have around everywhere - the giant Explosions or a Xantos 325 type of thing. Probably tons of them in basements and attics....

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I was thinking there should be no reason this wouldn't work - after all the guy who invented kitewings (McGruder?) used it on windsurf boards.

Taking a closer look, he says it is a 6 ft board, so not an old WS, but I still don't see why it wouldn't work. I'm thinking one of the old giant slalom boards might work - like we used to have around everywhere - the giant Explosions or a Xantos 325 type of thing. Probably tons of them in basements and attics....

I'd go the opposite way - 75-85 liter wave board. Harder to get planing but it's a lot of wind and you're using the wing for lift. For your method, maybe an old formula board... Biggrin

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Problem with formula is that they are wide and short so need really big sails to get planing. Tried it once with my wing but the wind sucked and never tried it again. I'm thinking something longer and skinnier makes it easier to get planning with small sails. But yeah, OBX would be the place to try it. Everything works there. (The Wright brothers went to OBX for a reason.)

Here is a rigid kitewing and I think a windsurf board.

https://youtu.be/XsQbamLQmOw

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Maybe you are right Webster. I don't know if this was already posted, but seems to make you point board is 90lt, 70 wide.

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Windfoilers are looking for those old kite raceboards, too. With a mast track, they make good high wind windfoil boards.

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The dimension of that board are probably closer to my RF81 than to my F136 so maybe? Of course, he did make one qualifier - he is pretty good.....He also pointed out that he had no idea if the tuttle box mount was strong enough.

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Alan Cadiz (long time windsurf instructor and wingfoil pioneer) on FB

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Alan Cadiz After experiencing, watching, and teaching this sport from the early days, I have learned so far, that there is no wrong way to learn it. However I do feel the easiest way to learn is with a beginner WIND SURF board, with a dagger board. Learning first how to "sail" the wing on a stable platform then moving to a SUP foil board. Sure learning to foil behind a boat would expedite the foil experience. However, not only to you need a boat and all the hassle and expense that goes along with a boat whether rented or owned but you also need a captain. Yes you will graduate to smaller boards, bigger wings and faster foils. For some the transition happens quickly others are content to stay with the gear they have. Lessons are a way to try the gear before you buy. Gear can be expensive but like anything there are deals to be had and when you think about it having your own personal hydrofoiling sailing craft is not that expensive after all.
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Alan Cadiz (long time windsurf instructor and wingfoil pioneer) on FB

Quote: Alan Cadiz After experiencing, watching, and teaching this sport from the early days, I have learned so far, that there is no wrong way to learn it. However I do feel the easiest way to learn is with a beginner WIND SURF board, with a dagger board. Learning first how to "sail" the wing on a stable platform then moving to a SUP foil board. Sure learning to foil behind a boat would expedite the foil experience. However, not only to you need a boat and all the hassle and expense that goes along with a boat whether rented or owned but you also need a captain. Yes you will graduate to smaller boards, bigger wings and faster foils. For some the transition happens quickly others are content to stay with the gear they have. Lessons are a way to try the gear before you buy. Gear can be expensive but like anything there are deals to be had and when you think about it having your own personal hydrofoiling sailing craft is not that expensive after all.

I have been using an inflatable SUP with a DIY center fin. I used an Air 7 fin box attached with 3M 5200 to hold it in place. It does make staying upwind fairly easy. For regular SUP, I just don't put the center fin. For a hard board, it might not be necessary to have a center fin (after all Robbie didn't need it) to stay upwind. On inflatables the rails are so round that they don't provide much resistance. I may try it w/o the fin just to see if it matters. When I was using that board with my inflatable sail I couldn't stay upwind until I put the center fin in. However, wth practice it may not be that hard.

I don't know but it seems to me that a person with only SUP experience would likely find learning to sail with a WingSUP might be easier than learning how to windsurf. It may become a sport in its own right - I think sailing small waves could be fun for example. I've found I can sail faster with the wing than I could go by just paddling like crazy.

Might work on your SUP's Webguy - could build the case for a getting a wing...... Yes 3

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Randy, this guy looks like he's on the RRD Pocket windfoil board. I'm guessing that's the big RRD freeride foil (1500cm2).

Gong inflatable board. Very interesting for travel. One bag, one foil, two wings. OBX here we come. Shok

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