Things I'm not getting for Christmas

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Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Slingshot 125cm mast. I'd drown trying to launch this thing. For scale, the woman in the pic is 5-1.

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Yeah...I do not know about the W125. That is a long way up... and a long way down
I wonder if in a year or so there will be more or less 100cm+ masts
I really like the W103/926.
Wipeouts on it do not feel much different than the 90cm/I76.
But I have had to change my pumping technique compared to the 90cm/I99.
Considering the W103 has significantly more cord and length you do not want much difference between your heading and your course when you are pumping otherwise it feels like you snagged on seaweed/grass.
But once up...all good

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Hey Foildodo, didn't you hang glider pilots have a saying; "never fly higher than you want to fall?"

Bill Herderich

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Hey Foildodo, didn't you hang glider pilots have a saying; "never fly higher than you want to fall?"

The problem with foiling is that, sometimes, the flying higher thing isn't a choice.

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Does give you a little more margin in the jibe tho...

With these altitudes it also kinda negates some of the sailmakers discussions about closing the gap with the sail.
(I still stay pretty close to the water with the W103 although I am trying to hold my flying height a bit higher)
Greg keeps his kit pretty high out of the water most of the time in his videos.

If we could go a little taller with the mast maybe get into some of that cleaner air that the kiters are using.

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I don't think being that high is going to solve the jibe problems most of us have, only make them worse. Lol

Fun to watch? definitely. Biggrin

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You will have to teach me about end plating.
Is that simular to vortices control at the tip? I imagine air is trying to wrap around the foot as well

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You will have to teach me about end plating. Is that simular to vortices control at the tip? I imagine air is trying to wrap around the foot as well

I excised my end plate comment but since you brought it up - yes, it's essentially a fence or "winglet" inhibiting air from wrapping around and creating a vortex. It doesn't really add much drag like a normal fence or tip does because the board is already there. You still have the head of the sail to contend with but there is already a lot going on to help there such as twist, square head and, in the case of foils, higher aspect ratio. Since the folks using this mast are freeriding, the performance aspect is nowhere as important.

Edit - it should be said that most sails aren't cut for closing the gap anyway. Race/slalom sails are and for everything else not really. Wave sails are cut the opposite, to keep the foot high and away from the water.

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Is it just me or the foil mast is longer than the board?

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Chrismas

Check out Emiltron3000 and Greg Glazier on Instagram for the tall mast short board thing.

Or

https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/The-Mutant--video-?page=1#23

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Regarding end plate effect, it may be that operating higher up in the wind gradient may offset or perhaps provide a benefit to any losses of end plate effect.

Bill Herderich

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

More short boards and tall foils

https://youtu.be/d-9agndxPsg

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Chrismas

When is Chrismas?

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When is Chrismas?

the day after the evening I corrected every post in this thread except yours... Blush

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

It was a test of observation wasn’t it.

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas
moredownhaul wrote:

It was a test of observation wasn’t it.

Which I failed miserably. Biggrin
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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Despite dropping massive hints - didn't see this tree in my house this year

source: https://www.f4foils.com/2021/12/25/merry-x-mas-happy-foiling/

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

Why a lot of gifts were late this year. The man himself was taking some personal days in December
https://www.facebook.com/wahk.hkwindsurfing/videos/1048173545965555/

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Re: Things I'm not getting for Christmas

I myself don't need any of this, so I didn't ask for it for Christmas, but there are those that could probably use it (and you know who you are).

What happens in a black hole stays in a black hole.

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