Facebook post for “new” north sails from model years ~ 2015 back to 2009 (+/-)

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Facebook post for “new” north sails from model years ~ 2015 back to 2009 (+/-)

Sorry, working on an iPad and don’t know how to cut, paste, share post, or do this more efficiently. But if any of u guys know facebook’s “windsurf classifieds” page, you might be interested to see a post, today, from Jim DeSilva. Apparently he’s got ~ 100 sails of many sizes priced from $99 to $199. Think sails are in Miami. (Hope that’s enough for anyone interested to go by)

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THANK YOU, moredownhaul. Now, here's the list he sent me (this will save you one step)

Model MFG Year Size Price
2016 Volt 6.9 North Windsurf 2016 6.9 $199.00
2015 Volt 6.9 North Windsurf 2015 6.9 $199.00
2015 Volt 5 North Windsurf 2015 5 $199.00
2016 Volt 5 North Windsurf 2016 5 $199.00
2013 Volt 4.2 North Windsurf 2013 4.2 $150.00
2014 Volt 4 North Windsurf 2014 4 $150.00
2015 Volt 4 North Windsurf 2015 4 $150.00
2015 Volt 4.7 North Windsurf 2015 4.7 $150.00
2015 Volt 4.5 North Windsurf 2015 4.5 $150.00
2016 Volt 4.5 North Windsurf 2016 4.5 $150.00
2013 Volt 4 North Windsurf 2013 4 $150.00
2016 Drive Cloth 5 North Windsurf 2016 5 $150.00
2015 Drive Grom 1 North Windsurf 2015 1 $50.00
2015 Drive Grom 2 North Windsurf 2015 2 $75.00
2013 Drive Grom 1 North Windsurf 2013 1 $50.00
2015 Drive Grom 2.5 North Windsurf 2015 2.5 $75.00
2012 Drive Grom 1 North Windsurf 2012 1 $50.00
Drive Cloth 1.5 North Windsurf 1.5 $50.00
Drive Cloth 5.7 North Windsurf 5.7 $150.00
2016 Hero 5.6 North Windsurf 2016 5.6 $150.00
2016 Hero Hybrid 4 North Windsurf 2016 4 $150.00
2016 Hero 4.5 North Windsurf 2016 4.5 $150.00
2016 Hero 4.2 North Windsurf 2016 4.2 $150.00
2015 Hero 3.4 North Windsurf 2015 3.4 $150.00
2016 Hero 3.4 North Windsurf 2016 3.4 $150.00
2016 Hero Hybrid 4.7 North Windsurf 2016 4.7 $150.00
2016 Hero 4.7 North Windsurf 2016 4.7 $150.00
2013 Idol 4.2 North Windsurf 2013 4.2 $150.00
2015 Idol LTD 5.2 North Windsurf 2015 5.2 $150.00
2016 Idol LTD 4 North Windsurf 2016 4 $150.00
2014 Idol 4.2 North Windsurf 2014 4.2 $150.00
2014 Soul Wave 4.8 North Windsurf 2014 4.8 $150.00
2015 E Type 4.9 North Windsurf 2015 4.9 $150.00
2014 E Type 4.9 North Windsurf 2014 4.9 $150.00
2016 E Type 4.5 North Windsurf 2016 4.5 $150.00
2016 E Type 4.9 North Windsurf 2016 4.9 $150.00
2016 E Type 4 North Windsurf 2016 4 $150.00
2011 Ego 4.7 North Windsurf 2011 4.7 $150.00
2011 Ego 3.4 North Windsurf 2011 3.4 $150.00
2014 RAM 5.2 North Windsurf 2014 5.2 $150.00
2013 Warp 9.2 North Windsurf 2013 9.2 $99.00
2012 Warp 12 North Windsurf 2012 12 $99.00
2012 Warp 11 North Windsurf 2012 11 $99.00
2012 Warp 10 North Windsurf 2012 10 $99.00
2009 Warp 12 North Windsurf 2009 12 $99.00
2011 Warp 10 North Windsurf 2011 10 $99.00
2009 Warp 9.8 North Windsurf 2009 9.8 $99.00

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Scored a couple. Unfortunately for Langdon, they were out of anything bigger than 5 by the time we reached them. Now I need to find some Dutone stickers to cover the "North" logos. Lol

If anybody is looking for a cheap 4.7 (NP) and 4.5 (Simmer), let me know. Both are in VGC condition.

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What are "foiling cutdowns"? The ad says "Big sails great for foiling cutdowns...."

There is no off season.

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What are "foiling cutdowns"? The ad says "Big sails great for foiling cutdowns...."

Prior to the new generation of foil-specific race sails, the easiest way to make a high aspect large area sail was to use an old formula sail and lop of the back 20-25%. A lot of the first "proto-types" were just these cutdowns with some, like Steve Allen, adding a bit of area at the bottom to get the squared off foot that you see.

If you have access to a sailmaker, you can take an almost free formula sail and end up with a decent sail a lot like your friends' new $1000 one. I imagine the sailmaker has to be a really good friend of yours because I can't imagine the time it takes to redo 7-9 batten ends.

I tried searching for Chris's post where he posted some pics of one of the early ones but I'm too lazy to do a long search.

btw, Sebastien Koerdel explained it pretty well in an interview I saw the other day why high aspect sails work on foils and not slalom boards. Foils ride much steadier and don't have to worry as much about the sail moving around too much and disturbing the air flow over the sail. Slalom (and formula) boards bounce around a lot more and need the greater width to keep the air flow from separating. Watch the sails during a slalom heat and you can see how much they move.

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That's interesting - my 7.3 North Crossride is pretty high aspect. Has luff length ~490, but rigs on 460. Most 7-7.5 sails I've had have shorter luffs. Maybe I should try it next time.

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Defining high aspect sail size and luff

Severne Hyperglide 2

8.0 522
9.0 556
10.0 580

NP FlightEVO

8.0 536
9.0 572
10.0 607 Shok

For us mere mortals, it matters a whole lot less. The most popular free ride foil sails in the larger sizes tend to be 2-3 cam freeride/race sails. Cams help stabilize the foil and thus the power making the ride a lot more stable. You aren't doing the up down thing so much in lighter air. Even a mid/late 90s cammed sail works fine.

In higher winds, I use a really low profile sail, Naish Chopper, and it's just fine and surprisingly fast enough.

Let's sail Sunday and get your board tuned.

Found Nico's video where he talked about his cut down. btw, he did well in PWA Japan the other day.

WARNING NSFW - multiple euro f-bombs in video although I think it starts after a lot of them

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I would like you to sail my board/foil again. I've made some adjustments the last few times out - single bolt mast foot (against my better judgement) all the way back; footstraps in farthest back position*(s). Boom up as high as can stand it (it's not quite as high yet as my eyeball high inflato-sail) and I "tweaked" the rear stabilizer. Not sure what else there is to do. Would be good to see if this setup works for you.

Will have to see about Sunday - last time out (crowds and boat slop) didn't exactly thrill me.

*I'm going with 4. That's how I normally get planing. I'll remove the back pair if they get in the way.

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Alex M on a cutdown NP



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A bit of testing today...

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Looks pretty simple - you would have to cut the sail, shorten the battens, re-sew the the dacron tape at the back of the sail (though duct tape might do just as well), and then re install the batten pockets. I don't have any sails that big that or that I want to cut up. Main concern I would have is my sewing machine struggles to do hems on blue jeans, so I don't know if it has the mojo to sew batten pockets. A little concern about sewing anything to monofilm - never tried that.......

If someone had a pre-cut sail they were willing to devote to the advancement of science.......

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Don't forget that you have to put back whatever mechanism the sail uses to adjust batten tension. On a 7-8 batten race sail, I imagine that's a bit of hand work. Or, I could be wrong. I need to look at a sail and see what it entails.

And, redo the sail grommet (or sew the cut off grommet into the existing cloth).

I wonder what the sail angel in Buxton would charge? I have access to several 9+ meter sails... Anybody with a long bed trailer going to OBX? Those big sails are ... big.

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When I said batten pocket I was thinking of the batten tension adjusters. I think that would be the hardest part, though the grommet might be difficult too. The OBX solution is probably better. Work space and an industrial sewing machine would make this kind of work much easier. Her prices are very reasonable, but it might end up costing as much as a new sail.

The "easy" way of doing it would be to just put some tape (Gorilla Patch and Seal) on TE, and find the adhesive material used to make those stick on foil mounts (I believe it is 3M VHB tape) and use that on the batten tension adjusters.) Figure out a way to do the same with the grommet - though the grommet might need to be sewn in.

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Randy wrote:

When I said batten pocket I was thinking of the batten tension adjusters. I think that would be the hardest part, though the grommet might be difficult too.

Good

The foilmount is intriguing but seems only applicable now to WindSUPs since the NP Glide provides a Powerbox solution. I still feel like it would peel the whole bottom off the board but I guess not.

My solution to the cutdown sail issue:
https://www.phantom-international.com/iris-windsurfing
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Wish the Loft Skyscape was available in the US, too.

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It looks like you can the product by the roll. But yeah - you are better off with a sail you don't need to cannibalize.

Not to change the subject - but the 3M VHB material has a strength of 45 per square inch - might make an easy was to convert an SUP to WindSUP. Of course, we already know 3M 5200 works for that.

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Randy wrote:

It looks like you can the product by the roll. But yeah - you are better off with a sail you don't need to cannibalize.

Not to change the subject - but the 3M VHB material has a strength of 45 per square inch - might make an easy was to convert an SUP to WindSUP. Of course, we already know 3M 5200 works for that.

Paging Mr. Wade. Mr. Wade, a call for you at the Foiling Courtesy Counter. Mr. Wade.

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