Cams vs no cams? Some things to consider

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Cams vs no cams? Some things to consider

Good blog post from Point 7 about cam vs. no cam. Some of it, of course, is specific to their line of sails but some good info to be gleaned all the same.

https://point-7.com/2023/03/08/black-tips-5-cams-or-no-cams/

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Re: Cams vs no cams? Some things to consider

I'm wondering if I'll ever bother using cammed sails regularly on fins. I've thought about it, considered buying a used mach 3 with mast but held off. Don't have a real board to used it with.

Foiling though I love the cams in 7.0+. I can hold down way more sail in gusts and they just feel so great and stable until I inevitably have to pick them out of the water.

If my fin jibes were better I'd consider a real slalom board and sails but it'll be a while. Lots of money to spend on that and I'll get more TOW here with foiling gear. But I like the idea of having a bigger slalom sail than I'd have on an uncammed sail and just dealing with overpower instead of dealing with the lulls on a smaller uncammed sail. I'm just not there with skill.

Would be interesting to see a writeup on cammed vs uncammed foiling sails but I'm thinking the use is so different it may not make sense. 6.3 and below I'm using a bigger freeride wing and not trying to go super fast, so it's almost like a different sport. Maybe if there were larger uncammed freerace foiling sails but I dunno, seems like you lose a lot more on foiling. I've yet to use one of my big cheetahs on a race foil.

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Re: Cams vs no cams? Some things to consider
aeroegnr wrote:

I'm wondering if I'll ever bother using cammed sails regularly on fins. I've thought about it, considered buying a used mach 3 with mast but held off. Don't have a real board to used it with.

Foiling though I love the cams in 7.0+. I can hold down way more sail in gusts and they just feel so great and stable until I inevitably have to pick them out of the water.

If my fin jibes were better I'd consider a real slalom board and sails but it'll be a while. Lots of money to spend on that and I'll get more TOW here with foiling gear. But I like the idea of having a bigger slalom sail than I'd have on an uncammed sail and just dealing with overpower instead of dealing with the lulls on a smaller uncammed sail. I'm just not there with skill.

Would be interesting to see a writeup on cammed vs uncammed foiling sails but I'm thinking the use is so different it may not make sense. 6.3 and below I'm using a bigger freeride wing and not trying to go super fast, so it's almost like a different sport. Maybe if there were larger uncammed freerace foiling sails but I dunno, seems like you lose a lot more on foiling. I've yet to use one of my big cheetahs on a race foil.

I, too, love the stability of cams on larger foil sails. I started with a Cheetah 7.0 which I'd always considered super stable and rangy. Was shocked how much easier an old freerace 2 cam 6.5 was on foil. Having a big cammed sail on a fin, to me, is a delight. I think my size predisposes me towards very stable sails and I put up with cammed sails' drawbacks to get that.

By the same token, everything below 6 is camless because, like you, it's for a different riding style. I guess that's the most important thing the article stresses - match the sail to your objectives, gear and conditions.

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